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Rebel Scientist Episode 16: Wade Lightheart of BiOptimizers is FIRED up!

Updated: Oct 20, 2021

Russ: Well, I’m excited today because we have a rebel friend joining us who we’ve just met. So that’s exciting.

Sarah: Yes, a new friend for both of us that makes a change. It’s usually one of us that has the friend. So I’m super excited to because this is someone that I’ve been following in on the biohacking side of things. So, we have Wade, so glad you could join us Wade.

Wade: Always a pleasure to meet with other people on the front lines of creating healthy humans to 100 and beyond.

Sarah: Yeah, I think probably our paths have crossed during some times in the biohacking events, because I think you’ve been to, or at least spoken remotely at the Helsinki event. Did you speak there?

Russ: Yeah, I was there, that was probably the last big event before the pandemic, I think. It was a lovely group of people up there. And people very concerned about health and using a combination, What’s really unique about this environment, I think it’s lost in the terminology for a lot of people. But

it’s the combination of kind of natural based health practices, some which have been pursued for 1000s of years or hundreds of years or culturally with cutting edge science, which is either amplifying, or demonstrating defendable, scientific valid table proof that there are methodologies that you can use, which may have a historical base, or maybe new technology developed from these ideas to improve the quality of your health to overcome debilitating health challenges, and ultimately, to feel your best and I think that’s really what biohacking is. I think a lot of people lose in the terminology, and they go, “Oh, it sounds like a bunch of geeks shining lasers into their head.” And that’s part of it, don’t get me wrong.

Yeah, with our company, we called it Bioptimizers. Because what we felt that it was more about optimizing the definitive factors that lead to a healthier or like a longer living like, not just how long you live, but how healthy you live during the days that you get. And

there are a set of fundamental scientific cellular principles that can be ascertained through critical thinking, and historical perspectives and then monitoring through science and when you do this, you now take and become your own scientist, you become your own critical thinker, you become your own experiment and then you get into this thing and next thing you’re wearing lasers on your head, but that’s how it goes.

Russ: Wade you’ve uniquely described well simply described Sarah’s entire career about putting lasers on her head which by the way, is the only reason I’m here is because Sarah’s a leader in red light, but my basic question. And I like to kick off with it. As you know, we talk to a lot of biohackers. And I like to ask two basic questions because I’m coming at this from the layperson’s perspective of your, what is your biohacking superpower? What do you think is the thing that you want everyone to know? And then the question after that is, why in and why did you get into that?

Russ: Great questions, both. I don’t know if I’ve ever been asked that, what is my biohacking superpower? I think it is the ability to synthesize in a logical step by step matter, what I would call cascading principles that need to be leveraged. So my background, I’m a tarpaper, shack Canadian born guy from the woods. And inside of that environment, very rural, you need to have logical, simple, applicable real world, if you the wood box is not filled up, you freeze the death, if you let the heat go out, the pipes freeze, you know, if you do not prepare food for the winter, or shovel the driveway, you get snowed, like, there are very, very practical functions, which I think are lost. Frankly, a lot of people in a technologically advanced world, they don’t have real world functional principles. And without that basis, they’re handicapped because you start focusing on minutiae instead of the big movers. And the big movers are universal for everyone. And I think a lot of people try to go with the latest and greatest and most far out thing, but they’re not following first principles. So what I did my superpower was to, because I’ve been in this industry since I was 15 years old. And being a former bodybuilder, bodybuilders are the original biohackers, because we’re overcoming the genetic and evolutionary propensities in humans. And we’re overcoming that through technology, training, dietary practices in a variety of different ways. Like, we’re really hacking the system to offset limiters in the system. And so that mindset with my practical experience that okay, as I go through this, I put things through a filter. And in that filter, they go into these boxes in order of magnitude importance. And then when you get the individual, you can kind of run that parameter through them and say, “You know what, there’s these many things that you can do. But this is the piece that’s missing in your game. So let’s focus on that and get the biggest amount of results for the energy resources and time expense.”

Sarah: Cool. So, maybe you can talk us through that process with regard to what you do with nutrition, then because that’s an interesting concept. But still people need to know, okay, what are those basic steps? Because for a lot of people, they’re just, they’re eating a diet that’s just presented to them not even thinking that far?

Wade: Well, I think the first, if we look at what I call, we’re in a very challenging time with the availability of all so much information because we’ve created what I call dietary tribalism, the do’s and don’ts of various dietary practices. And if you are, you’re either in the tribe or you are an enemy of the tribe. And there are truths within all of the dietary practices, and their counter truths to the individual within all those dietary practices, especially with the mutation that’s happening with humans and our food right now. Which has been so extreme in the last 80 years, we have to look at this from a different perspective. And so what I back the truck up before we get into diet is, well, what is this and this is the philosophy. So I’m kind of breaking out the philosophy of what’s called the awesome health philosophy, which is a cool little acronym that I developed, and we give away a course on my site for free. It’s a 12 week, five to 15-minute video per day, you do it in 12 weeks, I had some people do it in two days, or three days or pick and match, but I look at the human body. And the one common element of the human body that is universally applicable is cells. We’re a collection of cells. So theoretically, if you can apply the practices that make the cells healthy, and function the way they were designed to do, you are on the right path, and most people started diet. And I think that that’s a mistake. And I’ll tell you why. Here’s the reason. How long can you go without food?

Sarah: Not so long.

Wade: Few months. You can go few months without food. How long can you go without water?

Sarah: Seven days at least (We just interviewed Eugene Butcher after 7 days without water)

Wade: Right! So, in order of magnitude, which is more important than water or diet? Water. Now let’s ask another question is water the number one thing? Well, let’s say how long can you go without breathing? Hold your breath and find out.

Russ: Big wave surfers, three minutes, I just learned I live by big wave surfers.

Wade: And there’s those guys in Indonesia that can go under for 35, 40, maybe an hour. But an hour talk, with the people that have been training their entire lives. So which is more important air or water?

Russ: Air.

Wade: And now, let’s go one step further. Okay, is that so we need to go to food, no, well wait a second. If I strap you to a bed, which happens in our hospital situations and my early initiation when my sister got cancer, when I was 15 years old, and I watched her go from a very strong and robust athlete to waste away over four years until she died at the age of 22. I watched her literally waste away as she was debilitated by both the disease and the medications to treat the disease. I think a lot of the medications were worse. But you take any person, take a person, if you’ve broken your leg or you’ve been immobilized, what happens to every single function inside the body. It goes down. Like muscle mass, one of the leading indicators for longevity and quality of life is the amount of muscle mass that you carry and maintain over a lifetime. Well, how do you maintain muscle mass?

Movement, and movement is a part that both charges the electrical organs inside our body, the movement, as I move, it creates electrical charges, which powers our organs and moves lymphatic fluid, which is the detoxification, the exhaust of the system.

So if you can put a car you can put different grades of gas inside a car, but if you could put a couple bananas in the exhaust pipes, it doesn’t work because there’s no exhaust your body works the same way. Cellular metabolism through mitochondria requires the removal of the waste of whatever food that you’re burning. You need oxygen, you need water, you need glycogen, you need fats, you need what ketones, it doesn’t matter. There is going to be a certain amount of waste production from that cellular respiration and the cleaning of the lymphatic system is three and a half times the volume of the blood system. Yet we put so much emphasis on the blood system. And most people when they start getting healthy that one of the things that they do is a detoxification Well, why do they detox, because they’ve been plugged up? Pull the bananas out of the tailpipe. So, the three principles that we start on which are non-negotiable is air, deep breathing practice that removes carbon dioxide out of the system and infuses with oxygen. Second, make maintaining adequate hydration, almost everybody I’ve ever tested, using an electro interstitial water scan, which was scan the hydration of every single organ of the body is chronically dehydrated, that means it needs to three weeks to hydrate properly. And three exercise movement because our systems our human bodies are built on maximum efficiency in the preservation of energy because of starvation was a big issue throughout history. And all animals work on the expedient use of energy. And if you waste too much energy to get food, then you will exhaust the lifespan of that animal. So what has happened is in our infinite intelligence, humans have developed all this radically cool technology that preserves energy. And we’ve gotten so good at it, that we’ve now actually became the evolutionary stressor to ourselves because we don’t walk we don’t lift things. We have press button, on the computer on the TV, we experience life through a virtual projection now through computers through phones, we’re not living life. And the consequences of that without movement means that we begin to waste away we get begin to plug up our lymphatic system. So air, water and exercise are non-negotiable, and then when I look at diet.

Sarah: What about sunlight?

Russ: The next, funny you should say that because the bridge between when I talk about when I get into the biohacking stuff, the cellular function is like sunlight or air water exercise of the first parts awesome. Sunlight is the conceptual component of okay. We’ve been taught a biochemical model of science biology. I’m classically trained in physics, I had an aptitude, more of an aptitude in physics than I did in biology. Because I always had an issue with the chemist when we do the chemical equations, and they would just kind of round off the edges and say, “That’s okay, I might wait, wait, wait a second, if I do that, and on my taxes, I go to jail for fraud.” How can we do this in chemistry? But when I looked at physics, everything is vibrations, frequencies, wave, and all matter is essentially slowed down light, it’s condensed the light. And so I said, Well, why don’t we look at food. Because if you look at what happens at the mitochondria, the energy unit, the engine, the machine that drives our car, the mitochondria, its process is, it’s represented in a chemical cycle. But on the physics of it, it’s electron covalent transfer, there is an electrical charge that comes from one product and moves to another, and that movement generates energy in the body. So if that’s the case, if I can improve the efficiency, the flow, the transfer of those electrons in the body, I have more energy. And if I impair that flow on some level, then I have less energy inside the body. And so I look at, for example, let’s say people are having a lousy day, they’re tired, they’re lethargic, they don’t feel good. You’re like, “Oh, life is great.” You get a phone call. Bob, Mary, whatever your name is, guess what? I got great news. We’ve just found out that you had a long lost uncle that no one knew about who died alone, and has written you out in the will. And you now have been just given $100 million. Are you excited? Yeah, Of course, you’re excited. Maybe you found a long lost sibling, maybe you got the job that you didn’t think that you’re going to get, maybe a relationship came into your life at that time, which invigorated you, what changed. What changed was, what you focused on what the vibration was, what the energy was. Now, there’s an interesting piece that’s related to this. And I know you’re into the light, and this is a critical component. Up until recently, humans spent most of their time outside, outside is about 100,000 candle watts of power, compared to your now eco-friendly 40 or 60-watt bulb. You can’t run a body on a 40 to 60-watt bulb and why people have locked into cubicles and sitting in their house and these little lights and staring into blue screens that don’t operate on the frequency that our bodies have been learned over millions and billions of years of evolutionary biology, means that you are subjecting yourself to a light present. And we’re inviting people to get out in the sunshine, get your bare skin out there. And if you can’t do that, you need to be able to use light technology to infuse in your life. And I always say get food that has the most amount of electrons that convert into it. So, that’s how I look at things. And then from that, whatever diet that works for you, based on the next set of principles, which I get into cellular function, and mental beliefs and attitudes I get into that, which is later in the thing, but you could put it first but it would screw up the acronym. And then how do you get through that you get through it through education, testing and coaching. So the one thing I’ve left that was the optimizer so awesome, air, water, exercise, sunlight optimizers mental beliefs and attitude education, testing, coping, and optimizers is where my company has been focused. The things that the cells need to get that they may not be getting from the diet, or there may be some impairment to them because of the overarching society we find ourselves in.

Sarah: Yeah, that’s a brilliant, holistic approach. It’s so well of course you’re singing to the choir, because this is what we’re all about. But it’s just so excellent to hear is such a brilliant holistic approach. The other thing is what about the that’s kind of all the positives. What about the negative side of things, what about toxins? and dare we say parasites? What about things like that?

Wade: Well, years ago, I wrote a book called Staying Alive in A Toxic World. And there’s an important caveat when one explores the world of toxins, and its kind of like getting involved in politics. You, once you get so deep in it, you become toxicities yourself, you have to be very careful. That to be very careful, it’s good to understand the toxins. But what I encourage people to do is focus on their ability to remove them from the body. So the principles behind the philosophy that I have, and the number of books that I’ve written and how I advise my high end clients, and things like that, is to look saying, “Look, you’ve got the most amazing machine, you’ve got, of the 14 billion years or whatever the universe is open, and three and a half or 4 billion years, everybody that they’re kind of changing it all the time. Give or take a half billion here on Earth. Yeah, who’s counting you are, you are the evolutionary development of that, you’ve got three and a half billion years of evolution on this planet alone. That’s led to you.” That means you have incredible resources at your will to overcome every single thing that’s going on, what you need to do is focus on improving your ability to rid the body of toxins. And if there are toxins by identifying toxins in your body, whether it’s parasites, whether it’s heavy metals, whatever, okay, great, identify what they are, because usually what that indicates is there’s an area inside your body for whatever reason, that is getting overwhelmed. And if you improve that ability to remove that toxin, it will quickly fall away.

Sarah: Okay, so, what’s your kind of program for removing toxins or making the body so that it’s able to do that?

Wade: Great.

Number one, deep breathing practice. Number two, adequate and consistent hydration every single day, at least a gallon of water a day. Three, exercise and movement.

Particularly, I think rebounding is one of the best place for toxic removal because of its how well it works on the lymphatic system. And it’s easy for anyone to do, you can do it in a home, you can do an enclosed place, you could be old, you could be young, doesn’t matter. I think that’s a great way for detoxification, sunlight exposure, the more you put light in, the more energy you have and note that you get it you convert, like they’ve proven this now that you convert light into usable ATP energy units. And by doing so you increase the [unclear 22:54] vitale, the vital power, the chi, the prana, whatever you want to call it, the life force within you, which allows you to initiate and activate the detoxification metabolic pathways in your body. From there you want to look at cellular function. And in order to have proper cellular function, you need proper digestion. So a cell needs a number of things in order to work. The only two things that do work in the body are enzymes and probiotics. There’s actually more bacteria in our body by a factor of at least 10, there’s 10 times the bacteria in the body than we have cells something of that magnitude, so we’re mostly bacteria. You get down so ...

Russ: I can feel that inside my body.


We live in symbiotic relationship between these bacteria and there are good bacteria, there are bad bacteria, 10% good, 10% and 80% opportunist. The ratio that you have within your body is going to determine what dietary practice is right for you with your genetics and epigenetic responses.

And then the second thing is your enzymatic potential is going to determine how much energy you’re using to break down and deliver the nutrients to your body. So I look at the cellular function you got enzymes and probiotics is number one is the workers that convert whatever you eat or whatever you do, or the metabolic processes in your body, produce the polypeptide genes for your brain everything. Then we get into you need enzymes to get your proteins, proteins to get your minerals, minerals to get your right. So you need amino acids, essential amino acids, you need essential vitamins and minerals. I would say trace minerals and vitamins go along that there’s a reason they’re in your body and most people don’t address it. And then you need you go so minerals, essential vitamins, and then you can get into herbs and to address parasites for example, herbs do a couple of different things. They change the landscape with in your body, by directing, life force into different channels, or they make conditions within your body more habitable for some organisms and less habitable for undesirable organisms. And so, for example, parasitical worms and stuff with the right balance of herbs, or worms, or parasites, you can read a book called Parasite Racks. The most terrifying book I’ve ever read in health; parasites are just amazing creatures. But if you have parasites, the number one thing of a parasitical relationship is that they suck the energy out of the value creator. And so, if you have parasites inside the body, they can suck the life force out of your system, so you can’t heal these other areas. And so what you want to do is you would select certain herbal concoctions that will eliminate that particular parasite. If you have undigested food in the body and digested proteins in particular put strain on your immune system. It grips it builds lithology and Qatar in all these type of things. And so removing the crap out of your system, one of the best ways to do that is through precision herbal concoctions used judiciously. So those herbs, I find are very good on cleansing programs. And so fasting, partial fasting, alternate day fasting, herbal cleansers and stuff. I believe they’re becoming so popular nowadays because people are so full of crap.

Russ: Literally. In so many ways. It’s a lot and I think that one of the things that Sarah and I have really spent time on is trying to just dissect down, getting started because I’m sure you deal with this a lot, Wade, where people come to you and I feel terrible. Well, how do I get started and it sounded, it sounds like you start with the breathing, you then start with, then you kind of go down your path. As you get people in that mode. And I work in tech and one of the things we constantly use the term flywheel. And so the flywheel of all of our businesses is what keeps the marketplace going. So I think about maybe applying that to my body and say like, “How do I get, you know, to get the flywheel going, I’m breathing. I’m getting sunlight, I’m hydrating. I now have my body is doing the right things to recognize these are the bad parasites. Is there one thing, is there one thing to pull through to say?” This is the thing that’s gonna keep you on that flywheel because it’s so easy to fall off. It’s so easy to just get lazy and say, “I’m done. I gotta watch TV, I got to have a glass of wine.” Is there something that just kicks you back into the flywheel, it keeps you going?

Wade: Yes. Your reason why? If you do not have an emotional and when I mean an emotional, I mean a strong emotional connection for you to overcome the gravitational pull of an unhealthy lifestyle. Some people that’s a health scare, some people it’s wanting to see their grandkids, some people it’s trying to be an example for the kids. Some people it’s vainer they saw themselves in a picture, they have an event coming out whatever, it doesn’t matter. If there’s emotion, E MOTION, is the energy that separates humans from everything else. Why do we have emotions and in tech, that that, this is my and I fight with this in my company every day because we have all these young wizards of tech in our companies very tech oriented, but technology itself has no emotion. It is rational, it is logical, it is sequential, it is definable, it is scalable, it is quantifiable, that is one half of the human organism. The qualitative aspects of existence, are directly related to emotion. And you will not have enough horsepower quantitatively, if you do not have an emotion. Now, what most tech people don’t realize is that they’ve generated all their emotion into the AHA discoveries that they find within the quantitative experience of tech, but they’ve gone too misbalanced in that route. And what happens they lose the qualitative aspects of what makes us human. What makes, why, why when you’re at the grocery store, as tech wizardry as you want to be, I’m talking Steve Jobs, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, whatever the tech titans of the world. I guarantee if they’re standing in line at the checkout, and a mom is there, with a little baby on their shoulder, and on the cart there, whatever, and the baby looks at the tech Titan, and goes ooe-oee. What are those? What does that wizard do? He responds to the baby. Yeah, he’s doing go, go, ga-ga, all this sort of stuff. And what is if he feels happy, and he probably feels happy, or she feels happy in that moment in a way that you can’t make logical sense. And so where people get caught in today’s world, is they’re trying to put too much logic and not enough emotion into their physical program. And once you get an emotion, now, too much emotion without logic, you become all over the place, and you exhaust yourself. If you have the balance of the right logic, and you power it with the motion. That’s where humanity makes magic. And so when I take people through my course, I go, and like I said, I give it away, because it’s it. It was the one thing I had to figure out, which took me decades to figure this out. Well, when 1000s of people I coached and successful ones, moderate, successful and unsuccessful ones. And what I realized is these are the principles and I broke it down into a 15 minute, a day routine, where you leverage every single component of the awesome formula. In 15 minutes, you do it first thing in the morning, and it’s really simple. You get on a mini, you get up, you get on a mini trampoline. You put on the things that make you happy, not the news, something music, something powerful, something inspiring, whatever you like, you get on a trampoline, you jump up and down like this pumping your arms. And you put as much oxygen in the system as you can, you get off the trampoline, after 10 minutes of jumping, you take a big drink of water. Some people like to do it before you put vitamins and minerals inside the water. You take enzymes, you take probiotics, you take whatever you didn’t you drink that in, then as soon as you’re done, you make us shake. And in that shake, you put all the goodness you like your central fatty acid, your essential amino acids, whatever carbohydrates that you love, from a natural source, any vitamins, herbs, plants, pollen, whatever the hell you want. Whatever that is, you’ve determined is what your body needs, you drink that blended up, you drink it down. The afternoon, you have something with a variety of green foods, like I call it a rainbow salad. If you’re on a salmon diet, or your keto diet or your planet, have some greens, that’s lots of colors in the afternoon. And in the evening, have whatever the hell you want, whatever you want for things. If you do that every single day, I guarantee in 30 days, you’ll feel amazing and I guarantee after 90 you will become a zealot like me.

Russ: I just want to do one thing I know Sarah, want to hand over to you for the rest when we talk purpose and one thing we’ve had Reiki experts on, we’ve had Reiki masters on we’ve talked about meditation, in my process of meditation, there is a purpose and there’s a, but there is a purpose that I sort of remind myself up of as I’m in that, is it something that you set early to say find that purpose? Or do you not, you just, cuz I do it in meditation. I have my purpose. I’m a cancer survivor. And I just want to keep walking and keep going every day. I’m like, “I’m grateful that it’s been 28 years since I’ve had it.” But how do you help people to find that purpose? it? Is it a simple thing? Is it hard to people struggle with it?

Russ: Oh, people struggle with it, excessively and I think it is the downside of the modern world. Um, you know, humans are a social species by nature and they build relationships and connections and those relationships and connections develop meaning, and one of the great books of the 20th century I think is Victor Frankel’s Man’s Search for Meaning.

Sarah: That’s what came to mind when you were talking. I was thinking about that earlier.

Wade: If you know the story, I mean, obviously, he was subjected to the most abject conditions, as a prison camp person in World War Two, and it’s horrific, horrific, starving, senseless killing, and torture and violence and all it just levels of grotesque, horrific aspects of humanity that most people can’t even imagine which are going on at this very moment in very many places in the world. If you can find meaning, under those conditions, then you are untouchable. By whatever happens to you in life, and let’s face facts, and this is part of the antiseptic West that I think we’ve really missed the boat on is we’ve taken death. And we’ve put it away in a nice, neat, controlled box that sends out with a Hallmark card set of flowers. And as some sort of ceremony that you use that’s not dealt with, up until the modern world, like grandpa and grandma died in front of you, you saw the horrors of what would happen, or your parents dead or your siblings, you know, people used to have 10 kids and four or five of them would survive your brother, it was not uncommon for your brothers or sister to be died, but by war or by illness or disease. We’ve moved away from that in the modern world, because we’ve developed such great technology around it, but inside a group living the great technology, we’ve lost the urgency of life, and understand that, “Hey, we’re all going to die.” The question becomes, how are you going to live with the time that you have? That’s my invitation to everybody that’s listening today. Look, how old are you, let’s say you’re 50 years old, your life expectancy at best is 100 years, you get to 100 years. So if you’re 50, today listening to this, you’re at the halfway part you’re on the back nine of the golf course. Look in the mirror, you’re not looking like you were when you were 20. So what, you can’t do anything about it. This is the nature of physicality, that it descends into chaos, you cannot overcome the laws of physics. But what you can do is you can find meaning within those next 50 years, whether it’s looking after your kids, it’s inviting in your community, it’s building a world changing business, it’s figuring out a new chemical reaction, inside a bacteria culture, it’s developing a new program, if you have meaning, and you have a social group that you connect with that is related to your meaning. This is the number one factor for living long, it’s the number one factor for living happily, more than money. And we’ve been chasing money. We’ve been chasing safety and security and all these things and all these regulations and be it’s pervasive in this current conditions that we live in. And the reality is, human existence is not safe. It’s not meant to be safe because everybody dies. So determine it the meaning of life is understanding, I’m going to die. Why, but what am I going to do? Up until the moment of that inevitable appointment?

Russ: Yeah, that’s enlightening. It’s, it’s very true. And I want to give Sarah some time to talk through some of the other amazing things that you have to provide. But I find that you’re continually reminding yourself that even in the doldrums of staying at home and being stuck at home during this pandemic, that there is purpose beyond that, right and I mean, I’m sure things have changed but during this pandemic, and this on again, off again, staying at home and mandates and all these different countries going through it. What do you remind people out? Let me. I’m sure people fall off track during the pandemic.

Wade: It’s really simple. Don’t play by someone else’s rules. Love your kids, love your family. Walk out in public, wave to your neighbors. The only control is that which what we accept.

Someone wants me to put a mask on when I go to the grocery store. I put it on. I know it doesn’t work. I tell them, “Hey, I understand you got to keep your business on but we all know this doesn’t work.” You got it when they freak out. Well, fine. freak out. That’s your thing. But the science is the science is legit. We’ve got flip floppers over there all over the place, we’ve got a whole story that’s pervading over the world. That doesn’t make any sense. And so what’s it about? It’s about technological tyrants, who’ve lost the connection with humanity, who wants to control everything, including you. And it’s really simple. You go, “Hey, me, I participated. I’m done. You know, what? Kill me.” As Gandhi, who’s one of my people, I’m a big proponent of Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi. And “Hey, look, I’m not going to be violent with you. I’m not going to, you know, do whatever. I’m just not going to participate your program and his famous speech.” Ben Kim Kingsley did a great job in the movie gone, but he says, “Okay, you’re telling me that my home is not mine. My wife is not mine. My kids are not mine. The state owns all these people - and he said it in a little bit harsher terms. And I’ll keep this PG rated, he goes - so fine. Tell you what. You can beat me up, you can lock me in jail, you can kill me, you will have my dead body, you won’t have my compliance.” And what we need for people to do is to stand up and live their life. Hey, if you want to stay home and be sick, stay home and be sick.

Sarah: It’s personal responsibility is what you’re talking about. And that’s what we’ve been speaking. It’s sovereignty. It’s personal responsibility. It’s doing what you think is right. I was looking after my nephew’s during the summer, and there were a few things that we’re not supposed to do. And I said, “Just passive disobedience.” You know, I know. It’s just about, okay, this is I’m prepared to do my own risk assessment. And I’m prepared to actually stand up and say, “Okay, this is what I think is right, and this is what I’m gonna do,” and I’m not, as long as you’re not hurting anyone else, then that’s exactly the case you need. And I think that’s what’s happening in health. And that’s what we’re trying to promote, these people do need to take their own responsibility for their health. And that is in itself a meaning.

Wade: Well, and let’s go deeper on that, because there’s wide scope accounting. So you have a guy that is determining the choices for humanity, hasn’t treated a person in over 30 years, who has economic ties to pharmaceutical corporations, who have no liability for whatever they do to people with an experimental drug that’s going out across the population. Folks, maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. But if you’re designing any control group, in a scientific experiment, you have those who don’t participate. That’s called the control. So when people say, “Hey, what are you doing? What’s going?” “Hey, I’m part of the control part of the experiment.” What’s that mean? “Well, I’m not participating, I’m willing to accept the death.” If that’s what’s going to happen, I’m willing to accept the imposed limitations, because I believe, based on the evidence that we’ve seen over the last 18~20 months, is that the people who are putting forth these dictates can’t follow them. Number one, the science is conflicted. And they’re shutting down. Anybody that opposes. Those are the definitions of tyranny. And if somebody wants to continue to live under that world, go ahead. Kill me.

Sarah: Yeah, you make your own choice.

Wade: I’m energy. I’m energy. You can’t kill me. You can take this vessel I possess. But you can’t break me you can’t and you know who’s going to change this thing? You know who is that? You know who is the driving factor behind this thing? The mothers! Mark my words, when the moms rise up and say, “Enough is enough!” The world will change. And so I’m encouraging all the mothers out there, who love their kids, and put so much time and effort into their children and stuff to understand what kind of world do you want your kids to grow up in? And to stand up and show an example for them of what it is to be a free human being, a human being, because the definition of slavery is following dictates which you do not want to do.

Russ: I was aiming at talking about the emotional impact of being stuck in your house but I mean, I think in the way you described it, yes, I think it’s you are stuck in your home. And you are stuck watching and reading and digesting too much of what others are saying. And I think that part of it is incredibly destructive because you’re not able to make your own choices because you’re bombarded by it and you’re online, you’re on Facebook, you’re watching the news, and to go outside and we’ve talked about this a lot because we’ve been doing this podcast during the pandemic in multiple countries and what we’re missing more than anything else is human connection. And the human disconnection is kind of what you’re describing, Wade, is that what happens is it becomes a versus them on both sides? versus how do we as humans reconnect help, you know, in a healthy way, and I do find, as I went out for a little bit and was forced back home again, that reconnecting was very odd. It was very strange, I lost my ability to connect with people. But there is an importance to that, right? I mean, you mentioned finding the right community where you share your purpose, but how do you connect with people in a physical way again, and how important is it because I feel like, it’s lost, I feel like, it’s actually just squandered away now. And we feel like, we can digitally connect when we need to physically Connect,

Wade: I think it’s pent up like a well-deserved orgasm. And so what you got to do is you got to take the lead, you got to invite people over to your house, you need to go out to events, and you say, “Hey, by the way, I’m a free human. Do you love hugs?” And you give people a hug, you give them a connection, you give them a hug, not a little elbow bump, like they do at the political things. It’s like, Oh, I’m Oh, cool. Now I’m talking about, hey, let’s hug, let’s feel physical contact and how good that feels. Because guess what we’ve got folks. We’ve got four and a half billion years of evolution on our side. And there is no amount of physical, emotional, psychic connection that you can feel in contact with people. I went to a, I’ll give you an example. I’ll give you a crazy example. So in the middle of the harshest part of the lockdowns here in California, which was just absolutely banana tanks, I drove over to a training site in Nevada. At this training site, it was tactical weapons training, where you’re taught about the legal ramifications of using a weapon, which is great. The responsible aspects are set out by the Constitution of what the Second Amendment is the legal consequences, the criminal consequences if you are to discharge, a weapon, all of that stuff, and also the tactical aspects of how to leverage technology. Now people can say that’s good or bad, or whatever, I just choose to be someone who believes that, “Hey, better be prepared for everything. Why not learn to do things properly, legally, and under the law and under sign with real people that know what they’re doing to teach me what to do.” I go out to this event in the middle of the desert. It’s like this huge training compound. And this was my first experience of a year of like, there was hundreds of people coming from training for around the world. I’m talking grandmas. I was next to working with a 78-year-old grandmother who was worried about her grandson, but she’s taking care of because her daughter is unable to take care and she’s packing. She’s packing a nine millimeter. And people are walking around with open guns and stuff like in this whole thing. And the energy I felt in that moment was incredible. Like just being around all these people and people. These are people walking around guns. I’ve never been around 2, 3, 400 people walking around with guns. And everybody is smiling. They’re giving hugs. They’re happy. We’re learning responsible discharge of weapons under a very secure condition though. And it was like the media has put out these people is evil or doesn’t and I’m not saying there isn’t people that aren’t crazy and stuff like that sort of thing. But for the general but these are just people concerned about their safety and protection of their loved ones. And here they are all walking around with guns and everybody’s getting around just fine. And so, all of the hoopla, all the craziness, all the projections onto this was absolutely false. And yet what was amazing was that physical connection and it’s an invigorating thing. And I have people over to my house here all the time in Los Angeles, and I have people now that are coming to me, who have been abandoned by their friends’ group or their professional group. They’re at wit’s end, I had a wonderful lady come over the other night, because she was looking for friends, because she’s been excommunicated from her group because she decided not to get the jab.

Sarah: Yeah, that’s the sad side of things where you have this separation of people. That’s the whole point, the connection piece, people are losing that bit and it’s becoming almost like a tribal thing, where people are separate into groups. But I think that’s fear based. I think it’s because people have that reaction to as a fear thing. We are basically, like you said, we’ve evolved not that long ago from tribes of basically apes. So I think, you know, that’s where that tribal piece comes in. And I think it’s a lot of people’s fear reaction is to separate. But that’s the very sad side, we’re coming to the end. And I dread, I’m wondering what you’re going to give us for our seven-day challenge now.

Wade: I think people should take the next seven days and reach out to one person each day by phone or in person. Tell them, why they care about them, why they love them, and how they need what they mean to them. And why you’re so happy that your friends or your family member or whatever. And forget all the politics, forget all the health stuff, forget that, connect with people from an emotional place.

Sarah: It’s tough. It’s just not done over here.

Wade: Correct and you know what? We’re all a little bit crazy. We just tend to hang around with people who have the same craziness. And so what I’m inviting people is to lead a little on the crazy side, and you know what? Put yourself out there emotionally. Take the first step. Go out there and be vulnerable. Say, “Hey, you know what, Mary, it’s been a year I really you know, in this lockdown stuff really sucks. And we’re all locked into houses. I just wanted to reach out and tell you how much I miss you, how much I care about you how much I love you. I can’t wait to we can get together as soon as you’re comfortable if whatever that thing is, but I just want to know that we’re all on this. We’re all suffering on this insanity together. I love you and I just want to tell you what meaningful” and do specific compliments about the impact that they’ve made in your life for whatever reason, that is an honor and acknowledge people for that. That is so powerful, that is so powerful. And be specific and be honest and sincere. And in seven days, you’ll get a new sense of connection and a new sense of courage because underneath all of this, we’re still humans.

Sarah: Okay, well, all my friends and family listen to this podcast so that’s it, I can’t not do this, can I?

Russ: I should know maybe they’re gonna reach out to you that you guys are doing great work in the world you’re out there on the frontlines and advocating for a healthier humanity through common sense practices, technology that has been developed and I think that is extremely noble especially under the circumstances that we live in.

Sarah: Well thank you to Wade and everything you’ve said super cool. I love the holistic approach and yes, I will definitely report back on the challenge tell you how I got on but thank you so much for taking the time today. I really, really enjoyed talking to you.

Russ: Yeah, it’s been a pleasure guys.

Sarah: Okay, take care.

Russ: Wade, before we hang up, we, Sarah and I do a blog we’ll put the blog up with all the links to all of your stuff. Do you want to quickly let people know where to go to find all your awesome stuff?

Wade: just go to, there’s probably a coupon code or get a discount they use here and but more importantly, download the awesome health course. It’s right on it, we got an app, you can get it on the app, it’s five to 15 minute videos, 12 weeks, you can mix and match, pick the things that you want. And that layout, specifically what you can do to follow the philosophy that I’ve cultivated and developed over 30 plus years in the industry. And I give it away because I know that it makes a difference. It’s very powerful and very effective. And anyone can follow it.

Sarah: Beautiful, perfect.

Russ: You’re a beautiful human Wade. Thank you.

7 Day Challenge

Russ: Boy I’m telling you, Sarah, that was sometimes we have episodes, and our rebel friends speak from the heart. We’ve had tears on the show, too. We’ve had many guests cry.

Sarah: We have.

Russ: But never have I heard someone just go and just share how they felt about everything that’s going on in this world right now. And look, we all have our opinions. I’m not gonna judge what people’s opinions are. I don’t agree with everything and you don’t agree either. But we had a lot to say and to break it down back to rebel scientists and break it down back to biohacking. You know what he’s doing in in with health and with diet and is really incredible and helpful. And his exercise was, call a friend, talk to a friend, listen to them. I did that.

Sarah: He was totally bombastic, but I actually really liked Wade, and we’re here to be neutral and to let people say their piece, which I you know, we are totally anti-censorship. So that was super cool to have him on and just let him say his thing. I did call my family and as I said, on the show, it’s not very English thing to do, and I think people were just a little bit bemused, to be honest for us. But it felt good to do it. You know, I called my friends in California, they’re a little bit more open, very appreciative. And great, we don’t do this enough.

Russ: Tell me one new thing you learned that you didn’t know, because you called your friends and your family, what’s something that you learned?

Sarah: Well, not to get too deeply into it. But I learned that if you open up to other people, they open up to you. Because I did call my family, particularly my dad and rang up and said a few of these things, and then he started telling me some stuff about himself that I don’t think he would have done otherwise. So, I think you really must show that little bit of vulnerability to get it back. And it’s not easy, actually. And it’s definitely not easy if you’re not used to doing it. It’s probably a skill you have to learn. But I think with that comes sincerity. Because if you’re someone who you know, you just say all these things all the time, maybe it doesn’t have such an impact. But yeah, that was a bit of a learning.

Russ: I think I’ll couple this with Robin, Gary, and a couple Wade together. And I think one of the things is his intention. And I think it’s listening and getting out of your own head, and calling someone for your own need versus calling someone just to say, ‘Hi,’ and listen to them. And I think I learned something about a family member. And he’s struggling, and he’s struggling with something that, he and I don’t see eye to eye on. And I didn’t realize that he had the same belief that I had about it, and it was like, “Okay, well, I can, now I can help you, if you want my help.” And it was interesting. It was an interesting way to approach it. I mean, it is hard sometimes because you’re calling because you’re like, I need something from you versus I’m just calling to shoot the shit. So what’s up and everyone’s like, busy. I can’t talk right now.

Sarah: Why are you calling, what you want about? So yeah, I know. It’s just a little bit out of your comfort zone. And you have to make the time for it. So yeah, I agree. It’s challenging

Russ: We thank Wade for being lighthearted with us.

Sarah: Yes, he was fabulous.


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